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		<title>We Need A Social Marketers Club</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 07:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>puravida</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I tried to build an online marketers&#8217; club back in 2001 via marketinghwy.com, but it just never took off. I think the Internet was still too &#8220;new&#8221; to people back then and they all wanted a quick buck &#8211;which I guess that will never change. Tonight, I posted in my forum about this and the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried to build an online marketers&#8217; club back in 2001 via marketinghwy.com, but it just never took off. I think the Internet was still too &#8220;new&#8221; to people back then and they all wanted a quick buck &#8211;which I guess that will never change.</p>
<p>Tonight, I posted in my forum about this and the title of the article is &#8220;<a href="http://www.get-paid-hwy.com/index.php?showtopic=5214" target="_blank">We Need A Social Marketers Club</a>&#8220;&#8230; I posted in my forum instead of on this blog, because I wanted to foster more of a feedback than a blog typically affords. I am really gung-ho about this, and if enough people are interested, I would really like to see what we can do.</p>
<p>-Brandon</p>
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		<title>Why Social Bookmarks and SEO Don&#8217;t Mix</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>puravida</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can understand why webmasters would want to try using social bookmarking as a form of advertising their site. I mean, there&#8217;s a lot of traffic being funneled through StumbleUpon, Digg, Del.icio.us, and others. So, why doesn&#8217;t it work well for the SEO gurus? The answer is simple, actually, and you probably already know why [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand why webmasters would want to try using social bookmarking as a form of advertising their site. I mean, there&#8217;s a lot of traffic being funneled through <strong>StumbleUpon</strong>, <strong>Digg</strong>, <strong>Del.icio.us</strong>, and others.</p>
<p>So, why doesn&#8217;t it work well for the SEO gurus?</p>
<p>The answer is simple, actually, and you probably already know why (if you use those services) or you might have already guessed it (if you&#8217;ve done your homework). In a nutshell, straight advertising on social bookmarks doesn&#8217;t work because the mindset of the people there is dead set against being advertised to.</p>
<p>Who wants to see a bunch of ads after they just got home from work or they just got done washing clothes and taking care of the kids. People join social services like StumbleUpon (<a href="http://layla78.stumbleupon.com/" target="_blank">visit site</a>) to &#8220;<strong>veg out</strong>&#8220;; not to &#8220;buy now&#8221; or &#8220;learn how to market online.&#8221;</p>
<p style="border: 1px dashed #232323; padding: 10px; width: 350px"> <a href="http://layla78.stumbleupon.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.shrinktheweb.com/xino.php?embed=1&amp;u=51704&amp;STWAccessKeyId=3d44d01cf80fdd0&amp;Size=sm&amp;Url=stumbleupon.com" alt="Social Bookmarking w/ StumbleUpon" style="padding-right: 10px" align="left" border="0" /></a><strong>StumbleUpon</strong> is a very addictive social bookmarking site -i.e. a site that allows users to share sites they like and weed out those they don&#8217;t. This particular site allows you to &#8220;Stumble&#8221; upon new sites that you haven&#8217;t seen but others wanted to share. Lots of fun.</p>
<p>In all actuality, the social bookmarking sites are gaining a share of television&#8217;s audience. There is a growing number of people who trade off some time being a couch potato for being entertained online. And therein lies the key. They go there to be entertained. So, if a site or article pops up that looks like an advertisement, the community as a whole will move quickly to weed it out.</p>
<p>I can appreciate their pain, and I saw it verbalized on an article on Digg (<a href="http://www.digg.com" target="_blank">visit site</a>) recently that was titled &#8220;SEO Spammers: Leave Social Media Sites Alone&#8221; (<a href="http://digg.com/tech_news/SEO_Spammers_Leave_Social_Media_Sites_Alone" target="_blank">view submission</a>).  If you take a moment to look at the comments for that article, you&#8217;ll very quickly see the strong feelings on the subject. And, I can understand. When you&#8217;re on a social networking or bookmarking site, you&#8217;re there to chill. You&#8217;re there to relax. You want to let loose and let your guard down. You can&#8217;t do that if you bombarded with offers, ads, and spam.</p>
<p>From my own experience, I know that traffic from StumbleUpon and Digg can be rewarding but it&#8217;s not really the kind of traffic that an SEO (search engine optimizer) should be targeting. Ultimately, that audience won&#8217;t buy. It seems that -as is backed up in the Digg article mentioned earlier- SEO spammers don&#8217;t care about the direct traffic anyway. They only care about spamming the search engines for higher rankings. This type of spamming is less than 1% effective, but -as with spam- that&#8217;s all a spammer may need to be successful!</p>
<p>I just started this blog recently, and one of the first articles I wrote was an article about the <a href="http://www.seconspiracy.com/2007/12/12/who-will-clean-up-googles-mess/">mess that Google is creating</a>. I had been writing that article <em><strong>in my head</strong></em> for months, and when I finally got it published on here; I showed it to a bunch of my friends online and in real life. I got a lot of kudos and great feedback and I even got quite a few people to join Digg and StumbleUpon after I told them what it was all about. Now, they&#8217;re hooked! But, the point was that my friends alone helped get my article placed fairly high within Digg but it ultimately got &#8220;buried&#8221; because it&#8217;s just not &#8220;pure entertainment&#8221; and didn&#8217;t &#8220;fit&#8221; there.</p>
<p>My article was a great piece to make you think, but I know when I&#8217;m &#8220;digg&#8217;ing&#8221; or &#8220;stumbling&#8221;, I don&#8217;t *want* to think! I want to relax. <img src='http://www.seconspiracy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   So, I cannot blame anyone for the article getting buried. That just tells me that isn&#8217;t my audience. Surprisingly, though, StumbleUpon also sent quite a bit of traffic and it seems that a good many more people from there actually were interested. I think that maybe users of StumbleUpon are more webmaster-related than users of Digg. I see Digg as more of a media company that is more of a threat to news and other media companies than a threat to other social bookmarking sites.</p>
<p>To me, Digg seems like the kind of site to compliment YouTube and may one day get bought out for that purpose. StumbleUpon is more based on the old &#8220;Paid to Surf&#8221; websites but with the twist of viewing stuff you <em><strong>want</strong></em> to view. They will be around for awhile. It will be interesting to see where they go. In the meantime,  check out these sites. If you&#8217;re not a member, you might just be surprised and get hooked!</p>
<p>What do you think?</p>
<p>Do you use a social bookmarking site? Are you a webmaster?</p>
<p>I love to hear your feedback!</p>
<p><strong>Update:</strong> Previously, I did not have a chance to really look into Sphinn, but it appears to be relevant to this blog. So, perhaps that is a market I can cater to. We shall see if my submissions are &#8220;hot&#8221; or &#8220;not&#8221;.. lol</p>
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